Curse

iriyabran · Aug 17, 2007, 01:21 PM // 13:21

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Originally Posted by oceanicdemigod

I also am perplexed by the images in the armor section of the official wiki.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/0/0...ed_armor_m.jpg

That Face = Tyrian

That Hair = NOT Tyrian

http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/b/b...an_armor_f.jpg

Not expert on Female Rangers but is that Tyrian Hair?

http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/4/4...an_armor_f.jpg

Don't recall that Hair in the Tyrian Female Necro Line-up

http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/6/6...an_armor_m.jpg

Necro Men in tyria DO NOT have this hair...I WOULD SO MAKE A TYRIAN NECRO MAN FOR THAT HAIR!!!!! ::drools::

http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/c/c...nt_armor_f.jpg

This is Tyrian Mesmer with Canthan Hair for sure...my Canthan Mesmer has that hair.

So what's with that? Sound like a Cross-Campaign Hair Pool is best idea

oh my god that's ass kicking *__*!
damn anet dont tease give us a hair stylist @_@

WinterSnowblind · Aug 17, 2007, 01:40 PM // 13:40

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Originally Posted by White knight lord

May I ask how giving opinions on a FORUM is "controlling"? I thought forums were implimented for people to speculate or give opinions about topics (please correct me if I am wrong)? So anyway, this means people that want the NPC want to control what I do too. Hmm...human nature to control..interesting...thought,Eh?

It's now been said countless times, but.. If I decided to change my characters hairstyle, how would that even remotely affect you? Most of the people I commonly play with probably wouldn't even notice, let alone random people on a forum.

I fail to see how anyone could be against this idea. If you're perfectly happy with all of your characters then fine, nothing to worry about. But for those of us who would like a change of pace, it would be a great option (and money sink) without having to completely recreate that character, thus losing all of their armour, weapons and achievements.

trielementz · Aug 17, 2007, 02:39 PM // 14:39

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Originally Posted by White knight lord

May I ask how giving opinions on a FORUM is "controlling"? I thought forums were implimented for people to speculate or give opinions about topics (please correct me if I am wrong)? So anyway, this means people that want the NPC want to control what I do too. Hmm...human nature to control..interesting...thought,Eh?

he means your opinions are controlling (restrictive, subjugative, etc etc), not the actual act of you providing opinions. pretty obvious if you read what you quoted, so consider yourself corrected.

and no, people who want a hairdresser NPC do not give a hoot whether you use it or not. in fact, i'm pretty sure people will put you on their Ignore list just to show how much they don't care about what you do with your toons.

White knight lord · Aug 17, 2007, 08:03 PM // 20:03

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Originally Posted by trielementz

he means your opinions are controlling (restrictive, subjugative, etc etc), not the actual act of you providing opinions. pretty obvious if you read what you quoted, so consider yourself corrected.

Hmm..Let me see if I get this...My opinions are controlling but not the act of providing them.....

I never foreced anyone to read my opinions so I see no controlling issues. Have I implimented a new way of controlling people by using my human nature attributes? If people are wanting the Hair stylist and fighting for it is basically the same thing I am doing but opposite..I have simply said "I don't think it would be a good addition to the game and I think it is a waste." "To change your chars hair means it just isn't the same IMO." that just sums it all up. Operative not to be mean but I have never said people should play like me, lol. I guess I continue to argue the "Hair Stylist" because one it changes the character as a whole and two it is a wastewhen there is a system in place atm IMO<--(key phrase), and apparently no one has actually cared for my opinions (except the folks quoteing me and continue to fight against me

) , so I keep repeating my self basically to get my opinion/point through again..which still fails....*sigh* But like I said in a old post, from Anets perspective I do not see them adding this feature this late in the game but that is the way I see it. This feature should have been added after Factions if added at all Imo <--(key phrase).

Paloma Song · Aug 17, 2007, 08:35 PM // 20:35

No one is attacking anyone's right to hold or express an opinion; to hold or express an opinion is not, in itself, controlling.

People are discussing the merits of one opinion (which you apparently share, though I wasn't directing my post at you specifically). And I was answering a question, psycho-analyzing why people (in general) would come to hold such opinions. It is about the fearful desire of some to control their surroundings, even - especially - when that means controlling you, since they egotistically think of other people as being part of their environment rather than separate individuals with their own rights. People who advocate the mere presence of a hairstylist are in no way attempting to control you. No one is forcing you to use it just because it exists - frankly no one gives a crap whether or not you use said hairstylist.

"If people are wanting the Hair stylist and fighting for it is basically the same thing I am doing but opposite."

This is not true. What people who want the hairstylist are saying is "we want the option." What you are saying is "I don't want the option and I also don't want anyone else to have the option either." In other words, you're just fine with controlling other people's actions by effectively arguing against their right to have options and make their own choices - in this case, because it might alter your environment (as you said, "it just isn't the same".)

Of course, this is a ridiculous supposition from the start. I, for one, brush and style my hair differently every day, multiple times. Last I checked, I'm still the same person and my friends aren't disappointed in me for the chameleon that is my mane.

Operative 14 · Aug 17, 2007, 08:42 PM // 20:42

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Operative not to be mean but I have never said people should play like me, lol.

Well, let's see....

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Originally Posted by White knight lord

So if ya don't like your chars hair suck it up or make a new version

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Originally Posted by White knight lord

Anyway I stand with not adding useless NPCs to please everyones dumb mistakes when they can just make a new char or suck it up.

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Originally Posted by White knight lord

So suck it up or make a new char ez as that

Here's a good one

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Originally Posted by White knight lord

I have made new chars to get a new hair skin and body its not hard

That's from the first two pages of this thread, need I continue?

Bryant Again · Aug 17, 2007, 09:29 PM // 21:29

Dang...Ouch, dude.

White knight lord · Aug 18, 2007, 12:57 AM // 00:57

Those comments say "Play like me cuz I tell you to do so"? Just my personal experiences and opinions. I never said "You cannot change your char" or "You can't do that"

Free Runner · Aug 18, 2007, 01:45 AM // 01:45

I personally cant wait for Anet to add an hair stylist to the game. My Mesmer needs a fresh hair style

The armor gallery pictures are interesting....

Drag0noX · Aug 18, 2007, 02:20 AM // 02:20

I want my warrior to have an afro with one of those mad combs in it

there better be a hairstylist

Operative 14 · Aug 18, 2007, 02:24 AM // 02:24

Paloma Song, Best post I have seen thus far in this topic by the way.

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Those comments say "Play like me cuz I tell you to do so"? Just my personal experiences and opinions.

What part of "make a new char or suck it up" is your personal experience and/or opinion?

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I never said "You cannot change your char" or "You can't do that"

You have just spent fifteen pages arguing that you don't want this feature, and that no one in the game should have the option of using this feature. So yes, you are saying exactly that.

White knight lord · Aug 18, 2007, 05:51 AM // 05:51

I never really thought out changing my chars hair much, I have made new chars to get another style, but I am not forcing anyone to. I am just strongly enforcing my opinions, to correct you I have never said they can't change their chars hair.I simply have said that I think its dumb and they shouldn't be able to.(IMO)

Neo Nugget · Aug 18, 2007, 06:03 AM // 06:03

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Originally Posted by oceanicdemigod

I also am perplexed by the images in the armor section of the official wiki.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/0/0...ed_armor_m.jpg

That Face = Tyrian

That Hair = NOT Tyrian

http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/b/b...an_armor_f.jpg

Not expert on Female Rangers but is that Tyrian Hair?

http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/4/4...an_armor_f.jpg

Don't recall that Hair in the Tyrian Female Necro Line-up

http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/6/6...an_armor_m.jpg

Necro Men in tyria DO NOT have this hair...I WOULD SO MAKE A TYRIAN NECRO MAN FOR THAT HAIR!!!!! ::drools::

http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/c/c...nt_armor_f.jpg

This is Tyrian Mesmer with Canthan Hair for sure...my Canthan Mesmer has that hair.

So what's with that? Sound like a Cross-Campaign Hair Pool is best idea

on a Side note....what's an Event Hat but a glorified Hairstyle? (not sure if that was mentioned) - Thats why I don't really like my witch hats cuz it removes her hair and she looks bald with a hat on...i like some hair sticking out to show she has hair underneath the hat.

Wow.....now thats crazy, theyd better not.....not give us a hair stylist!

Paloma Song · Aug 18, 2007, 04:30 PM // 16:30

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Originally Posted by White knight lord

I never really thought out changing my chars hair much, I have made new chars to get another style, but I am not forcing anyone to. I am just strongly enforcing my opinions, to correct you I have never said they can't change their chars hair.I simply have said that I think its dumb and they shouldn't be able to.(IMO)

That's just a tedious semantic point over the words can't and shouldn't. It's not really relevant whether you said or didn't say "you can't change your hairstyle" since current game mechanics already dictate that we can't.

The important part of the argument is that you've opined that other people "shouldn't be able to" change their hairstyles. This is the opinion you claim to hold, which is being argued against. I've explained why it's controlling and egotistical, twice, myself.

White knight lord · Aug 18, 2007, 06:16 PM // 18:16

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Originally Posted by Paloma Song

That's just a tedious semantic point over the words can't and shouldn't. It's not really relevant whether you said or didn't say "you can't change your hairstyle" since current game mechanics already dictate that we can't.

I don't recall my self telling people "You can't change your hair style". can't and shouldn't are not the same thing, lol. The current game mechanics do allow you to change your character hair (at a high cost for most).

Cathode_Reborn · Aug 18, 2007, 09:01 PM // 21:01

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Originally Posted by White knight lord

and apparently no one has actually cared for my opinions (except the folks quoteing me and continue to fight against me

) , so I keep repeating my self basically to get my opinion/point through again..which still fails....*sigh* But like I said in a old post, from Anets perspective I do not see them adding this feature this late in the game but that is the way I see it. This feature should have been added after Factions if added at all Imo <--(key phrase).

Well then, stop repeating yourself....you've made it more that clear than you're against the idea yet you still haven't provided a decent argument to not add this kind of feature.

What exacly do you mean you mean by "still fails"? Would you consider your opinion "successful" if you manage to get someone to think the way you do?

If you're against the idea, why are you even posting here? If this was a topic about skilll balances or changing something in the game that could possibly affect people in a negative way then sure, post your arguments against it......but, this is just a topic about adding a harmless feature. It almost seems you're against it just because you already wasted your time deleting a new char and remaking it just for a new hairstyle. If this feature is added into the game, there's no way it can hurt you.....if you're attempting to flame, just stop posting now.

geriand · Aug 18, 2007, 09:18 PM // 21:18

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Originally Posted by oceanicdemigod

I also am perplexed by the images in the armor section of the official wiki.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/0/0...ed_armor_m.jpg

That Face = Tyrian

That Hair = NOT Tyrian

http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/b/b...an_armor_f.jpg

Not expert on Female Rangers but is that Tyrian Hair?

http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/4/4...an_armor_f.jpg

Don't recall that Hair in the Tyrian Female Necro Line-up

http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/6/6...an_armor_m.jpg

Necro Men in tyria DO NOT have this hair...I WOULD SO MAKE A TYRIAN NECRO MAN FOR THAT HAIR!!!!! ::drools::

http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/c/c...nt_armor_f.jpg

This is Tyrian Mesmer with Canthan Hair for sure...my Canthan Mesmer has that hair.

So what's with that? Sound like a Cross-Campaign Hair Pool is best idea

umm soz mate but you've got the complete wrong idea...you can take characters from one campaign and give them armour from another e.g my grandad has a canthan warrior is sunspear armour and i have a prophecies monk in sunspear armour

its easy to mix and match armour and hairstyles just take them to the campaign and by the armour

Free Runner · Aug 18, 2007, 09:54 PM // 21:54

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Originally Posted by geriand

umm soz mate but you've got the complete wrong idea...you can take characters from one campaign and give them armour from another e.g my grandad has a canthan warrior is sunspear armour and i have a prophecies monk in sunspear armour

its easy to mix and match armour and hairstyles just take them to the campaign and by the armour

You appear to have the complete wrong idea. That ele has a tyrian face with a canthan hairstyle. Hes not talking about armour - everybody knows you can get armour from a different campaign. The one thing you cant do right now is have a face from prophecies with an hairstyle from factions - but those pictures show this being possible.

White knight lord · Aug 18, 2007, 10:10 PM // 22:10

Reborn,I think this wouldn't be such a great addition to GW this late in the game which I have stated in some of my posts and the player should have to stick with what they chose(To answer your "decent arguement" comment).I am not trying to hypnotize folks into getting them to think what I think.I have never deleted a char to get a new style and never have wasted any time on my chars (might wanna read a little more carefully).

I don't see how I am trying to "flame" people since I am just giving my opinions. Why waste time to implament this feature this late in the game? and not encourage Anet to add it to GW2?

Bryant Again · Aug 18, 2007, 10:18 PM // 22:18

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Originally Posted by White knight lord

Reborn,I think this wouldn't be such a great addition to GW this late in the game which I have stated in some of my posts (It is kind of late in the game).

...That doesn't make sense. How can it be "too late" to add this?

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Originally Posted by White knight lord

Why waste time to implament this feature this late in the game? and not encourage Anet to add it to GW2?

Because it's A. Two years from now, and B. I want to be able to change my characters in Guild Wars 1, not to mention C. I'll be making different characters in GW2.

And it's not that I don't care for your opinions - obviously, I *do* care because I'm posting here. I just want a reason saying why you don't want this implemented.

Oh and lol at this:

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Originally Posted by White knight lord

I have never deleted a char to get a new style

O rly? But what about:

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Originally Posted by White knight lord

I have made new chars to get a new hair skin and body its not hard

...Hm.